Friday, August 28, 2009

Finnish Men

Finnish men are a taciturn lot. It's true, they are really fluent at keeping silent in two language. It used to be Finnish and Swedish, now it's Finnish and English. An outgoing Finnish man would be considered introverted anywhere else in the world. I have met talkative Finns, it's when they've had several cases of beer and I have gotten used to the general lack of conversation. Finns believe that silence is golden, and they will inform you of how much you talk when you talk too much. They love their personal space and are good at all sport that does not require other people to play with and is life endangering (with the exception of ice-hockey), these are such things as Formula 1 racing, Cross- country skiing, marathon running in the middle of winter, Motorcross racing etc.

They take everything seriously, even when really drunk, they seldom will say or do something they do not mean. When they get to that point, it is the point of passing out. When you ask them a question, they will think about it for a long time before answering (sometimes as long as 20 minutes in a running conversation) and the answer will be very detailed and accurate -try asking for directions in Finland, you'll see what I mean- or they will simply refuse to answer because they don't have the time to think of the right one.

Finns do not believe there is such a thing as an uncomfortable silence. It is a good thing to learn. It is better to have someone with nothing better to say to shut up and to babble on.

Potential Boyfriend names:
Ari
Aalto
Herkko
Janne
Jukka
Karri
Lasse
Lauri
Pekka
Eetu

Notice anything? They are all 2 syllables, usually with a repetition of one letter. I was joking with a Finnish friend that all the male names sound kind of the same... he smacked me on the head and pointed out that I was always getting the name of the fortress island (Suomilinna) with the name of this special shot (Salmari). Anyway, Finnish is an impossibly difficult language to learn but with very straight forward pronunciation. The syllables sound the way they look.

Four insights into Finnish Culture

Finnish Dogs
They are rather furry, generally well behaved, and do not bark. TBH, I didn't see that many around.

Finnish Driving
Finland has some of the best Formula One drivers in the world. Finnish men know how to drive, they all rode their first moped when they turned 8, and I have heard stories of little boys being made to drive little go carts or motorcycles on a track even when they have barely learnt to walk. If your riding with a Finn, you can trust your life with him. I was half asleep on Jukka's motorbike (the upper half), and I'm still alive. In all Scandinavia, the fines are according to your income, after tax, so the richer you are, the more you are taxed. But it doesn't really matter because no one speeds anyway. They drive at the speed limit because it's the speed limit. They won't cross the road even if there are no cars going by because the light hasn't turned green.

However, all rules go to shit when they are having a race. (I saw this on Top Gear, no shit) A group of Finns, including housewives, teenage girls, a retired old men and a little boy who has just grown tall enough to see over the dashboard take battered old cars from the 70's into the forest and have a race. The teenage girl beat one of the regular English drivers on Top Gear. 


Finnish Theft
HUH? You don't even have to be afraid of the homeless drug addict lurking around in the park (unless it's the rapist park... apparently one of them in Helsinki has been dubbed exactly that). In Finland, and actually the rest of Scandinavia, everyone believes in making their own way in life, through honest means. It's so pervasive you start worrying if you are being as equal and honest with them as they are with you. Anyway theft is not necessary, the government is rich enough to take care of everyone, and anyway, Finland is not a materialistic society. Everyone is either comfortable or moderately rich.

How to meet Him.
Good luck! I mean it. Finland, like most rich, atheistic, Western societies has a population with a high rate of casual partners, and you can guess how that happens despite the guys seemingly painful shyness for most of the week, with the exception of Fridays and Saturdays. All men are easy when they are drunk enough not to be self-conscious, and the Finns will drink till they are boderline comatose so they can approach a girl (I met two guys on the boat from Stockholm to Helsinki who told this to me as a reason why Finnish males drink so damn much). But don't worry, he'll buy his own drinks, you just have to wait till 4 a.m. before advancing.

There is also the slow and steady way. Finns really appreciate friendships that will last, and if you have the time, you should take your time to get to know some Finnish guys over an extended period. Just ask them out here and there for a case of beer, or two, and sooner rather than later, you'll get what you want. But you have to look very closely for the signs that show he is interested, because it's subtle. Really fucking subtle. And you will have to make the first move. Don't expect a Finnish guy to call you or ask you out, he won't, even if he really wants to. With the exception of the times when he is drunk, it is 4 in the morning, and you're asleep.

Tips for the date
All Scandinavia is an equal society and everyone pays their own way. The men will buy a drink or two for the girls, but at a dinner, everyone pays their fair share. The women wouldn't have it any other way.

Finns are punctual, a 2 minute delay to them is late, but they are also very patient and well-tempered. And unlike Germany (with the exception of Bavaria, as I have realized) some rules can be broken if it makes everyone happier, or if it makes sense. He will tell you to hurry up, and you should, but nobody will get angry as long as you inform in advance.

A Finn will not hit on you, even when he is really drunk, and even then he might not do so. So if at the end of the date, you would want something more, you have to make it obvious. You know how all French men assume you would sleep with them if you go out on a date? Finns are the exact opposite. The only time he will hit on you is when you are in his bedroom. And even then.

If however you do not make it to that stage, he will give you a detailed description of the most optimal route you should take to get home, along with details of the length of time you will take to walk it. On weekends, this would be a description of the night bus, and he will find out the time table for you on his blackberry.

What you should know about Finland
 Finns love their country and they know a lot of contemporary details about it (especially concerning Formula One racing), but not a great deal of historical stuff. The first thing I learnt about Finland after Nokia was what a fantastic guy Kimi Räikkönen was, this was accompanied by You Tube videos of the guy falling off the roof of his yacht drunk on champagne. The second thing is that the landscape is all lakes and that it is the country that is the world's top supplier of ice-breakers.

In all of Scandinavia, the sale of alcohol is controlled by the state and you can only purchase hard liquor outside bars at the Alko store, but beer and long drinks (a Finnish invention) are sold at supermarkets. No alcohol is sold after nine, and the Alko is closed on weekends.

Impressing his mother
 Finnish moms are cool. They ride motorbikes, cook good food and drink beer. It's an egalitarian society, an on top of that, most Scandinavians don't understand racism. People are people whatever the age, or colour, and you'll be treated like a friend and offered lots of beer.

Finnish girl competition
You're more likely to make friends with one than compete. All the girls will end up hanging around together complaining about how the men never talk, and how to get them to talk. Most likely, all the chicks will gang up to try and get the guys drunk faster. The girls are all feminized (Finland after all has the 2nd female president after New Zealand) and there is a genuine feeling of 'Hey sister' vibe when you hang out.

When you want him to go away.
Finns are practical, and they know it when something is not right. You don't have to do anything, in fact nothing needs to be said. The right solution will happen. Finns think everyone else is talking too much about how they feel and they feel this is unnecessary. Why say something or ask questions to something that is already apparent? In Finland, many things happen without a lot of words being said.

64 comments:

Anonymous said...

My bf is finnish and I totally agree with what you wrote! If I read what you wrote earlier, it might just make me understand him more better:)

Anonymous said...

Thanks very much for your very entertaining comments and description of dating Finnish men. It's just what I was looking for, as I am just entering the fray! ;-)

Anonymous said...

This is for 1000% true. I can assure you that. Finnish men are to be trusted 100% but they don't talk...and at the end of the day... you are going to feel lonely, left alone... and you will probably leave your Finnish boyfriend in a couple of years. Sad but true.

Anonymous said...

I'm a finnish girl (with an african guy...why am l commenting on an article about dating finnish men... :,D) and l have to agree with most of the things you pointed out.

I have to say that the guys who haven't so straightly approached you, let's say after bar, most likely have tried to hold back not to seem like wanting only sex- a guy who does that want's to show that hes boyfriend material, not a player. :P
Second to be accurate, almost 80% of our popularity are christians. Some finns have bad attitude towards other religions, and l'm afraid that same goes to foreigners in general. Racism isn't all that rare here- especially black people can receive really poor treatment. Often young, jobless men with low education are the ones complaining how foreigners "steal their jobs and women", which is quite ridiculous.
Roughly said, if you want a finnish guy, an uneducated and jobless is more likely to drink much, depress and be racistic than someone with good education. Everyone in Finland gets excellent chances in choosing a career. That's why l'd say it is alarming to choose a guy without education: theyve never had ambition to plan their lives nor to have career.

Anthony said...

What does it mean by Finnish, since this terminology is new to me. If some one can explain me about this terminology will be highly appreciative. Is that some thing related to gays?

John said...

Love the way you have presented the post with us.
Gays

Steve said...

I was reading your post regarding the party girl and It seems to be very interesting and informative for me. I would like to appreciate you for sharing such an exclusive post with us.

Dämmerung Anblick said...

no comment. i'm finnish too.

Mariemouche said...

I just discovered your blog with this post ! You're awsomely funny ! I'm gonna read this all night long, I can feel it !
Bye from French girl !

Anonymous said...

Here's a comment from another side of the spectrum because I feel that this doesn't really apply to Finnish men in general. I know a handful of Finnish men and they talk A LOT the first time we knew each other and now we became really good friends. Maybe they just find you.... sorry to say this, boring? To me, Finns are the warmest people I've ever met.

Unknown said...

My husband is a Finn and I am not. I am Welsh and French...so we just do not understand one another very well at all! I have been waiting for over 27 years for the dude to loosen up...for God's sake! Finnish men are a conundrum...he proposed to me naked and in bed...no romantic going down on one knee. signed --a hanninen

Antigone said...

Thanks for posting this! It was a good laugh. :)
I met a Finnish man around my age about 4 months ago, and he acts a lot like what you described. Although he "noticed" me first, I had to approach him. He's extremely reserved, and it almost takes pliers to get something a little personal out of him...
BUT, he's extremely considerate and nice. He's incredibly smart (WAY more smart than I am), but he doesn't hold that against me at all. He has a wonderful sense of humor, although he is definitely the serious type.
Though it is a little exhausting trying to "deepen" our friendship, it's been worth is so far. I'm sure your post will help me understand him a little more. Again, thank you!

Oh, yes, and I'd like to add: His name is Lauri. Hahaha!

Anonymous said...

Thank younger this
I have just started dating a Finnish guy and he is so "distant" most of the time! Our phone conversations are very silent at times haha
I have been feeling lonely and confused by his quiet and unemotional nature so it helps to read your information

Greg said...

Your very right on the subject of Finnish men.They also behave much the same amonst other men.Something to do with very low self esteem

arashi kensho said...

very good content!!

Anonymous said...

wow... this is very insightful and witty at the same time. I really enjoyed reading this. I hope you can write one about Berlin Men? If you ever travel there.

My experience with a Finnish, was that he invited me for a weekend trip, treated me to everything, was expressive, but still Finnish in the ways of ( having more silent moments than others... getting drunk to almost comatose amongst others...) so maybe this one was a more evolved one? or global? .... but I will definitely take ur insights into account!! Safe travels!!

Anonymous said...

I'm a Finnish girl and I don't find Finnish men so reserved.. In my opinion, if he likes you, you'll notice. And vice versa. Finnish men don't play games, they say what they think. Or if they don't have the guts to say it to your face, they'll ask for your number and tell it in SMS. And when a Finn tells you something, he probably means it. It's not just small talk and empty words. I never made the first move with guys in here, and I never had to wait for a call if a guy liked me. But maybe they're more shy with foreign girls, go figure..

Anonymous said...

I agree with the last comment. Finnish guys open up to Finnish girls, not to foreigners. Also to girls who relate to them, who are interesting and like their companionship. If you are a foreigner who expects him to "WOW" you in a second, then a Finnish guy is not for you. Finnish guys really just don't want to open up themselves to someone they know deep inside they will never commit to. And if they do open up about their feelings, it means they are really interested in you. So no need to hate Finnish guys, they are just a different breed of men. And a lot of them are HOT. So if you are one of the girls not pleased with Finnish guys, do as you please, I'm sticking with my own kind ;)

Anonymous said...

i have been with my finnish guy for 3 years or so now, im welsh and like to chat ... and he is TOOOOOOO DAMN QUIET! it does get lonely, and i end up talking to myself a lot, but i love him loads!!! i came across this you wrote just to confirm again... that this is normal for finnish guys to act this way .. and its not me being paranoid..... my man dont say much.. but i know that when he does he means it... xxx oh and his name is janne rofl.. off ur list!!! (i also sent him this link so he could read it lol)

Megha said...

Superb blog. You have shared knowledge here Girl ! :)

2fat4u said...

Been to Finland a few times (I was dating a gorgeous Finnish girl) and you've got it spot on. Especially the bit about the answer appearing 20 minutes downstream of the original question. Finland is a Kaurismäki film set, and the population are the actors!
Brendan in Amsterdam

Anonymous said...

Just knew this Finnish men for about 2 months, but I feel like I already trusted him 1000%.. You're right about them being shy, but my men is pretty talkative n we had great chemistry on the first time we met, weird?? And I'm Asian by the way.. Not yet see him drunk,just have some wine on the weekend, but it's kindda difficult to imagine him being drunk since he is a self cautious (he's an auditor).. Looking forward to where this goin to be, but really hope he's the One :P

Anonymous said...

You have a good content. Good Job!
Hilarious and true. I would say your descriptions indeed fits my awesome finnish guy. So quite, reserved but observant. Seldom say things but when he says it - it goes to the bones. :) Very open but will never start a conversation. But he can say hi! :) Post more...

valma said...

k, so i'm a finnish-swedish girl (google it) and i'm just kinda pissed off when you make it sound like ALL finnish men are like that. cause they're not. sure, i spend more time with finnish-swedish people, and we're more social and outgoing than regular finns, but still. and not that i care that much about your post, but i'm bored ;) just want to get a few things clear; we DON'T take everything seriously, we do answer questions rather quickly if not even without thinking, maybe they you've talked to are bad at english.. and not all finnish drivers are that great. no we speed alot and fool aroud. and we do cross the road, even when its a red light. no our government is not rich and there's plenty of homeless and poor ppl. and you can hook up with a guy quite easily, they hit on you, they do make the 1st move sometimes and many of them do want a one night stand, but sure drinking prob makes it easier for SOME of them. haha could agree with an earlier comment, they're probably not that into you ;) sadly there are many racist finns, and girls can be very bitchy. it's kinda sad that you've got such a picture of finnish people.. i bet you've only met the most boring ones. if not, you should pay a visit where the finnish-swedish people are.
would b fun with a response ;)

Anonymous said...

HI
I AM AMERICAN GIRL AND MY BOYFRIEND OF ONE YEAR IS FINNISH. WE GET ALONG VERY WELL AND I DO APPRECIATE HIS INTELLECT.

HAVING SAID THIS I AM WONDERING WHAT KIND OF HUSBANDS THEY MAKE. I HAVE READ FINNISH MEN ARE TIGHT WITH MONEY ETC..AND THEY DRINK TOO MUCH.

ANY INSIGHTS INTO LONG TERM RELATIONSHIP WITH A FINNISH MAN WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

THANK YOU.

Anonymous said...

Yes, that's us, Finnish men.

Anonymous said...

Interesting article. Im a bit troubled, there's this guy, finnish ofcourse, and we are in the same university group for two years now. I had a boyfriend and we were only friends till than, but when I broke up, I started joking that I like him etc... now, I have a huge crush on him but he is indeed always quiet, and I dont know what to do.... it really seems I have to make the first step, but how.. is it just a matter of time?> I really hope. He is extremely sweet and funny and honest, but extremely silent as well. HELP ME!!!!!

Anonymous said...

whooo!!! i love this article about finnish men . i was dating one and he broke up with me just because i was a wanted some atention , he thinks that finnish women are too dificult , hey what do you know ,i found out that they are the dificult . i have to say this but can do many thing right but in bed oh they are terrible.

Anonymous said...

Ha ha, this is so true about the Finnish men. Unfortunately! I was interested in a Finnish guy for a while, but he made clear that he NEVER asks ANYONE out (what the....?), and seems to be perfectly content being on his own. He's a lovely guy, but I don't imagine it would be easy being in a relationship with someone so insular.

Anonymous said...

My Finnish man from Turku, took off with my $25,000 probably never to hear from him again. This was after an 8 month relationship. And up to that point the writer was spot on with his typical Finnish quirks..spot on! Wish there was some way to get back at him!

Anonymous said...

for anyone reading this post and lives in Turku...can you please tell me if this is a true residential address..Eerikin Katu 8,20100 and if a Timothy Flowers lives there...just doing some detective work.

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Anonymous said...

Thanks for your helpful and humourous observations. I'm a gal from Singapore and have just gone out on a first date with a Finnish man who comes here a few times a year to work. Reflecting on the date, I felt the guy was just withdrawn and cautious like some north European men - I don't mean to generalise. His emails and sms-es were so to the point.But there was warmth to him and certainly at times, good humour. Reading your article and the comments on this page, I realise that this Finnish man has really put in effort to be sociable especially as our date was straight after his word. But I also found myself often being the one to work at making the conversation flow. I think if anything is to come out of this, the Asian woman must be very patient :)

Anonymous said...

Hei! I met a Finnish guy last week and he approached me first. He told me so many nice things you wouldn't expect from a Finnish guy. I actually really believed what he said as he was quite "emotional" and he almost said he loved me, but he said he's better shut up (Finnish self-esteem I guess). I think I lost my heart to him but he is not contacting me. So far it was me who contacted him but it takes him so long to answer. Is there any Finnish men who can tell me why you are so shy and not contacting women you are interested in?
It's really difficult to understand these lovely Finnish men ;)

Anonymous said...

I went on two dates with a Finnish man and both dates were warm with great conversation (3+ hours) each time. The first date ended abruptly because we both needed to catch our trains. We shook hands in greeting but touched no other time. We had amazing eye contact. I had to look away sometimes because it was intense. The second date started with a hug initiated by him and it lasted a second or two too long past the 'friendly' time. I wanted it to continue forever. We ended our date with a walk and drinks and he seemed reluctant to leave, and we both stood there a little awkwardly. Perhaps I needed to show him more that a goodnight kiss would have been welcomed? Perhaps on date 3, if there is one...

He is quiet, reserved and uses words sparingly. I am loud, open and talk a lot. I make him laugh. He finds me funny. I find him frustrating when he will open up,but only so far. I also find him to be one of the most amazing men I've met.

Here is my question: HOW CAN YOU TELL IF A FINNISH MAN IS INTERESTED?

Anonymous said...

About the stereotype of unemployed Finnish guys. An ambition for a career tells nothing about ambition for things in life in general. It can be a different world out here in Finland. Just to be sure though it's better to find the guys who are not so much into alcohol or dope. They are fewer, but they exist. Of course these types are not necessarily recommended for the rat race type of women or men ;)

In general I can warmly recommend anyone dating a Finnish guy (or anyone else with a different cultural background that has culture shock elements) to read some very basic intercultural studies and/or cultural anthropology, or study them at school if possible. This will help you a lot psychologically and help you to create a more loving relationship. Best of luck to you all!

- Classic Finnish guy

Greg said...

Gr eat in-depth look at Finnish men
I have lived in Finland for 23 years as a British Expat and agree with your summary
A lcohol loosens Finnish men`s tongues.You are correct about the Finnish women trying to spurn the Finnish men to talk more.
I do believe it is changing,albeit slowly.Maybe as the younger generation matures their tongues will loosen
I have actually met Finnish women with their partners,but they would not open up.I ended up dating two of them,and the Finnish man did not care as we are freinds today

Strange situation to be in as a foreigner

Good post!
Greg

Anonymous said...

I should have read this earlier. I only know one Finnish guy and I met him at a work conference. One thing led to another (with the influence of alcohol, of course) and I ended up sleeping with him.

He was really awesome but I must agree with your views. He is stoic, quiet, measured, alert, a little shy and so considerate. When he is angry or upset, he withdraws and refuses to talk. But the one thing I really love about him is that he is super smart, hard working and responsible.

Unlike French or Americans or British guys who seems to be everywhere in Singapore, a Finn is rather rare. Glad to know one :-)

Anonymous said...

I can't stop laughing! i love this post. I actually know a finnish guy and this is so spot on! He's not much of a drinker though cause he easily gets drunk. He's really smart and has a great sense of humor. I really like him and he flirts with me. I want to have a relationship with him but i don't know how to make the first move xD. I'm asian btw, which means girls don't usually make the first move. Oh well, i guess we'll just be flirty friends :D

Anonymous said...

i love my finnish man, he's lovely ;)

Anonymous said...

Reading this actually gave a smile on my face :) Some of my friends are exactly how you described a typical Finn to be, but only small part of them. We do drink pretty often, but it's not only because of shyness. It's because that's how we have learned to live in our culture.

Some of you talked about Finns being more open to Finnish girls. It's about the language wall they get. Even though they might speak fluent English, they don't trust their English skills and don't want to embarrass their selves. Sad but true. Especially as many Finns I know find girls abroad to be more attractive.

And yes, I am a Finnish guy myself.

Anonymous said...

I had no idea that Finnish guys would be on the shy & reserved side until I met up with a Finnish guy. And your post is right spot on! He doesn't talk much and even if he initiates a conversation it doesn't go anywhere. I consider myself mix of introvert and extrovert, I'm not loud and outgoing but to be appear friendly I tried my best to strike up a conversation. At one point we were not talking at all! it was a long lasting silence probably lasted 10mins or so, it was sure awkward but it seemed he didn't mind but I couldn't bare and here I go again tried to start a conversation. He seemed to have a bit of humor, and appeared kind of desperate to get hold of a glass of beer now I know he needed to loosen up with an alcohol. I found him attractive but I'm not sure what he thinks, usually with others western & asian men they make it clear enough on the 1st meetup or date if not on the 2nd if they're interested in me or not, but there wasn't any sign or whatsoever with him. We don't have much time to go ahead and evolve the relationship so I guess I'll just pass this time :). I like the fact the they are loyal & honest. Its very true that they split bills , so don't expect to be treated just because you are a female. I find him attractive and polite but he's just very shy, at some point I thought maybe there was something wrong with me. It's funny how men & women of different nationalities have different personalities, values and so on so forth. Its worth exploring :) thanks to globalization.

Unknown said...

Heh, wow this is some good stuff right here.:D Those crazy finns!

Anonymous said...

eheheh.. i very much love all that have written here.. wooh!!
i have a finnish friend and YEAH! i felt also the awkwardness when we came to the point of SILENCE.. im a person that is very talky but when i experienced talking to my friend, who is actually my crush, oh my g.. that is very funny..
hahah..but i have also notice that when i became silent, he actually starts a conversation...
but to sum up.. i like their attitudes.. finns are good.. and honest...and i like to hear this from here.

Anonymous said...

Finnish guy is 1 million better than a French Guy.

Anonymous said...

I have to make one correction here: Almost no-one in Finland has a Blackberry, I've never even held one. It's all iphone, nokia or 'droids here.

Anonymous said...

I have a huge crush on a Finnish exchange student at my University. He is kind of intimidating because he is so fit and attractive and I am pretty but not super-skinny. I still find him warm and friendly when we chat (after a few drinks) I have had very few conversations with him but the few we had were really nice. We were joking and laughing and he even talked to me about his father and just life in general. Then the next day he is so quiet and cold and maybe he doesn't mean it but it's very off-putting because I am an extrovert until it comes to liking someone, then I freeze up (much like a Finnish guy)so I need encouragement to keep pursuing him (which is weird for me in itself) Do these things mean he likes me or is just being friendly?I hope there's something there because I feel a strong connection and I've only known him 3 weeks! I am also an African girl so I don't know if that has any influence. Please help!

Nikki said...

I'm a Brazilian girl, and I've been to Finland last year.

As everyone knows, we Brazilians tend to be overly outgoing, and I'm no exception to that, but surprisingly almost all the finns I met were really outgoing after the 1st encounter. Idk if it was me or what, but didn't take much (or hardly any) beer for them to act friendly towards me, even men. Of course, things got a LOT easier after the 1st bottle of wine was down, but still.

On the other hand, I have a question I'd like to be answered. I think I know the answer, but even though I wanna check.

One of the guys was realy friendly from the very 1st day I met him. We talked for hours, while drinking some beer on the park, he was all smily and talkative, and we got the conversation going pretty far - talked about everything, going through family, friends, relationships and sex. Then we went home, all was fine, but nothing happened.

Then we met again that same week, thrice to be more exact. Always very nice and talkative and even a bit huggy - YES, he liked to hug, and not only me - but nothing happened still. He would often start the conversation, instead of me, joke around and all. And no, he wasn't gay. And I was just falling more and more in love with him. But I didn't make a move, even though I knew I might be expected to by their culture. Even though I'm quite outgoing as a person, I'm really shy and insecure towards men!

Then on the last week I was there, he twisted his ankle, and had to immobilize his leg - which made him unable to do a LOT of things, like go dancing. I was quite frustrated. But then he texted me and said "hey, I know it's your last week, so I'll do all my best to meet you up the most I can before you leave". I was quite flattered. And on that week, he met me every day I called my friends out - he even rode a damn BIKE to the park, a mile away from his home, and rode the same bike, holding my bag, to the nightclub - and stood there, DANCING, the whole night through with me. He was also being surprisingly punctual, since his friends told me he was famous for being always a couple hours late for everything. He even showed up half an hour early to say goodbye to me at the airport when I left.

So please, someone tell me. Should I go back to Finland and fetch this man, or he might not be really into me after all? Give me a light, kiitos!

Anonymous said...

Nikki.

"But I didn't make a move, even though I knew I might be expected to by their culture"

In Finnish culture it`s not exactly expected that girls/females make the firs move, but if you do, you increase the chances of something happening considerably. And you being Brazilian (exotic to finns) propably helps too. This might not apply to all finnish men, but I and many of my friends find Latinas extremy attractive.

"He was also being surprisingly punctual, since his friends told me he was famous for being always a couple hours late for everything. He even showed up half an hour early to say goodbye to me at the airport when I left."

This, to me, sounds like he IS interested in you. Why? because, despite that the majority of finns are punctual, those who are always late are..always late. Unless...the are really interested in something. In this case, meeting you. Atleast thats how i am anyways.

-Another finnish male

I just realized that i sound(write?) waaayy too much like Dr. Phil for my own taste:)

Anonymous said...

I have never met Scandinavia guys. But I heard that they are very open minded, intelligent, polite and yes shy. The respect people for who they are and they do a lots charity jobs abroad.
Racism are in everywhere I am African but suffered discrimination in my own country for being a bit lighter than the "real" natives.
Guys normally look for something similar to them and related to them whether is black or white; or from north or south.
Scandinavias people are shier with foreigners than others parte of Europe (like empires) because they have less experience with foreigners. They aren't many foreigners compare to other parts of Europe.
Polite, intelligent, educated and reserved it's probably better than the opposit, which you find in a lot southern part of Europe.
I would love to date a Swedish or Finnish guy, I love shy guys and they are very good looking.

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Elektra said...

I am a girl from Greece and my boyfriend is Finnish. I can agree with your points. Finnish men are totally like you described them except of my boyfriend :D. He is very talkative and he was the one that made the first move to be with me. He is drinking but not much and he is not shy at all. He is really funny and makes me laugh all the time.He is really handsome and cute and he is making everything to make me happy. Unfortunately he wasn't totally honest to me from the beginning but he repaired his mistake and he was never afraid to show his emotions to me. Before he met me, he was just playing with girls and leaving them without clear explanation but when we met, he changed totally. He is telling me all the time that he loves me and that he doesn't wanna lose me. And I am the first girl that he has ever introduced to his parents(Finnish men don't introduce easy some girl to their parents at all). He is always trying to become better and I just love him. We are one and half year together and really happy. :)

Anonymous said...

Hi, nice to read your post. In my second-year studying in Finland. I also met a Finnish guy. Even we first met in bar but he really impressed me. We both did not drink any alcohol during that night. That was the night we were waiting for countdown of new year and I met him - a gentle Finnish man. We just started our conversation as normal but I think we both find interested in each other. We had been talking during more than 3 hours abt family, habits, life, culture etc. All what he told me are true. Then, he asked me to go out of the bar. We head to fast-food shop 'cause he wanted to eat something. He asked me lots of questions about my future plans... He is really different compared to other Finnish guys that my friends told me. The one I met is so open-minded, confident in communication, funny, polite, super gentle and he speaks very well English. He's around 30 yrs already. We ended up our first met and the last also by saying goodbye and nice to meet you. What a pity just because the day I met him is also the time I had to fly to France for my exchange semester. I truly miss him especially now when I came back to Finland. Just wish that I can ever meet him again here... !

Anastasia said...

Thank you for this article!I have begun talking with a Finnish guy for over a month now,he made the first move.I wish I knew if he is really interested in me.Are there some obvious signs?

Anonymous said...

I'm argentinian, i been there and everybody told me how reserved people were, especially men, but actually i found them more outgoing, of course not in an southamerican way, but still really talkative and extremely fun, i mean they were very nice and (in my experience) they enjoyed alot to talk about their culture and beer haha, my friends and i didnt have to make the "first" moves at all, oh and also you're right, women were rellyyy friendly, no competition at all, still in touch with them. Definitely coming back!

Anonymous said...

In love with a Finnish guy. Have nothing to complain. Smart, no nonsense, honest, respectful, fun loving, always listens attentively, never judgmental, always available, never intrusive, takes time to decide, never breaks promises.

Anonymous said...

i think finnish men are strange nd bore .i was engage wit one for two years his name jarmo arppe i used to love him so much but i was very unhappy he lie ,cheat then come back home say babe i love u then when i broke up wit him i feel much much happy

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Anonymous said...

i have a finn chatmate, but i have not yet see him personally, in our conversation, i feel a deeper connection between us, we are not in the stage of friendship, maybe more than that.

He told me that he will go here in m country to see me after finishing his study and he is thinking for our future,he is also starting saying i love you to me,sometimes.He said that he is in love with me and even lot of girls give him messages in the website where we met,he always like to see my message in his inbox.

M question is .... is he really serious about this?

Anonymous said...

answer to anonymous 14th july:

I am a foreign girl living in Finland and I met many many finnish men. Honestly speaking, they are still kind of a mystery to me, but I think you should be careful with what they say. Of course, Finns are very honest and it's easier for them, as for everybody I guess, to show their emotions via the internet, texting etc. Still, it seems like they are not always sure about what they want. I've been told so many nice things by Finns, but often, when it gets a little bit more serious they back out.
Just be careful and don't drag yourself too much into it. Stay in contact and wait, time will show :). Good luck!

Anonymous said...

You also need to check out finnbay’s column on this: http://www.finnbay.com/10-things-a-finnish-man-has-taught-me/

Anonymous said...

I'm an Aussie girl, married to a Finnish man, living in Finland. I love him loads, but the silence can be maddening, not just from him, mostly social situations. I really have tried, but I find it Sooooo awkward... I can't wait to move back home!! (Less than 2 years to go!) But that said, my husband is a very hard working, loyal partner & father, he'd do anything for us. I may have to throttle a conversation out of him sometimes, but he's worth it.

Anonymous said...

I met a guy in a night club and we dance and kiss and talk that night... At the next day he wrote me in whatsapp in order to meet up again but after 5 days of talking I decided to see him again so we went out with my brother and some friends and we split up and we talked all night then we went to an other night.club a couple of days later an 2 days after we went to an other club and there when I arrived he was a little bit drunk and we started to "fight" because I told him he was just playing with me and he wasn't taking me serious and that he was very cold and then he told me that he had feelings for me and that he feeled that we had a connection and that he had emotions for me and bla bla bla. The next day we saw each other again in my house and then we went to an other club with my friends and we got serious when I refused going to his home so he didn't kissed me neither look at me or talk to me any more and he left early because he had work at the next day. And it was last time I saw him because I leave like 2 days after and he didn't told me to see each other again neither do I but I wanted it too much but we stilled talked by whatsapp a little. The day I left he wrote me that he will never forget me and all that. Then we talked like a week later very quickly and since then we haven't talk. I wrote him an hola! :) (because I'm Mexican) but he didn't answered :(

Did he played with me? What he told me about him having feelings and emotions and a connection with me was truth? I think I liked him a lot, when I saw his face every day we meet up I realized that his eyes were dilated and there were a lot of moments when we were in silence which was very awkward for me and he just looked me in the eyes (with his dilated eyes) and smile me (it was uncomfortable for me) And one morning he wrote me Como Estas Cariño (how are you sweetie) which was very weird because usually I started the conversation almost always and he never talked to me like that (it happened the next day that we fight and he told me all that nice things)
The description of Finns man are real but I don't know if he played with me, everything passed by 2 weeks and we saw each other just 5 times and everything in the night.

Anonymous said...

That really depends on which country you are coming from. For example, I am a very outgoing, talkative southern European and for me it is hard to comprehend why do Finnish men protect their personal space so much and how can be silent for hours on end and not say a word. If I don't talk to people on a daily basis I would explode.